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Moe Train has interviewed over 60 of the world's most renowned musicians, and in this podcast, Moe Train Eats/Moe Train's Tracks brings to you one of the most legendary MCs to ever hold a mic... Public Enemy's Chuck D. Train and King B interviewed Chuck D while backstage at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival. Listen to this amazing interview and get an earful as Chuck D drops gem after gem.
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Interview with Chuck D from Public Enemy
Chuck D, Moe Train and King B
Manchester, TN – Bonnaroo
“Knowledge, wisdom, and understanding don’t come in the microwave.”
B: Here with Chuck D, the legendary MC of Public Enemy. In the 80’s, you pioneered politically and socially conscious rap music, do you feel that that is something that’s lacking in the genre today?
C: I think people when they ask me that question need to ask me, “Do you think that it’s something that’s lacking in the United States?” And I would say, well, yes. The maintenance of it is lacking, but it’s all over the world. I think one of the problems most Americans have is that they don’t understand that what has evolved in hip-hop is that it’s super-global. The United States is one of the places that it does it. Does it do it better than all the other places? I don’t know. You got guys that can spit three languages, how do you weigh that? I mean how do you weigh it, do you weigh it because you live in the United States, like this is it? It’s like covering the Phillies, you live in Philly, so I’m covering the Phillies, you know, so outside of Ryan Howard I don’t know what’s going on. But that’s my answer there, it’s like, political rap, you cannot be around and in the rest of the world and not say something that resonates with the people. You cannot, it doesn’t exist. There’s hundreds of thousands of rappers out there. Whether it’s Dam, them Arabic MCs, that’s in Palestine talking about that friction over there. Whether it’s like my man MV Bill and Eli Efi from Brazil, you know we’re talking about thirty years of recorded musical science. So, this is the thing that I hope and think that the hip-hop nation here understands, that you gotta comprehend that it’s over your head. What’s the exposure? BET, MTV, any of your local radio stations. Obviously, you’re limited to the two or three places that you can name when you say that that’s the epiddimy of exposure and if whatever’s being said out there, can’t get on there, there must be some kind of ulterior motive. We’re in the days of MySpace pages, Twitter, and YouTube accounts. I mean, what do you want to include and what do you not what to include. I think that the major labels dominance of saying, “This is official”, that’s been over. I don’t know why people keep holding it up. Let me tell you why it’s no excuse, you cover hip-hop right? Sports fan?
C: Do you ever hear a sports journalist talk about activities in high school, JV, college being lost? They cover everything. Everything is covered, even damn-near the playground gets covered! And 1 gets covered! Hip-hop, it’s just like, it’s the level of laziness of going past what’s thrown at you. I mean, what’s the level of coverage is only going to depend on how legitimate the coverage wants to consider itself. They’ll say, “Oh, we only wanna cover if Def Jam releases something, we’ll follow that.” If it don’t come through this one imprint than, you know, “If we don’t know about it, we ain’t gonna cover it.” Now you in the day of MySpace pages, man. I think diligence have to go to it. It’s gotta be like, “Well, I’m not getting paid, but I does this, I follow, ‘cause I love it.” Like I said, I’m a sports fan, and they don’t let a pitch go by without figuring out was that 94 or was that 83 mph coming from this college kid that’s playing a college game that might be meaningless between two teams, but it’s still be documented.
B: But they can tell you every pitch count, yeah. You were a consultant on the Let Freedom Sing project. You wrote the liner notes. Describe that compilation’s significance.
C: The compilation’s significance is because especially black people use a portal of music and expressed ourselves through other ways when we couldn’t express ourselves to the masses just by speaking alone. There’s often times when the poets and the artists would have to say something that would penetrate the veil of racism and do it in such a way that, you know, speaking for what is right is colorless. It doesn’t matter what color you are, you speak for what it right versus what’s wrong. That’s why on that box set it’s everybody from blues artists to Pete Seger. And using music, being that we were a people and are a people that follow music a little bit more closely, because of that history of it being this expression when you couldn’t really express yourself, it meant that much more. A lot of people said, this is how I feel, so I’m gonna hum it and sing it so I won’t get beat-down maybe, or killed. Spread your wings dog!
M: When you guys were coming up, you came up with the roots of hip-hop, as artists…
C: Oh yeah, ‘cause I was getting ready to say that when I was coming up there was no such thing as rap records or hip-hop. Even when I graduated outta 12th grade, if someone would have said that I would have been making records, I would have said you out of your mind, doing what kind of records?! You know, you had Earth, Wind, & Fire, the Commodores, that kinda thing going on.
M: With your music, with how politically fueled it was, when you say about your color didn’t see color, you appealed to the masses. You appealed to me as a kid. I was a kid in the suburbs. You spoke to me, you spoke to the kids in the ghetto. What did it mean to you to get your message out there, so strong, and have the sort of influence that Malcolm X influenced you? You have a voice, in a different way, but you have a voice to the masses, where you can speak to millions of people and get your message across.
C: Number one, your thankful, but it does not start with, it doesn’t end with you. You’ve got to be humble to all those things that were able to give you the platform and it’s not about you. One of the greatest things I’ve heard President Barack Obama say, last year when he was actually at the democratic nomination, he said, “Hey, it ain’t about me, it’s about us as a people, and if this out there I see it and if you see something say something.” And I just think that that goes across the board. One of the worst things that ever came and attached itself to the culture of hip-hop in a very wrong and misconstrued way is when they come across and say, “Stop snitching.”, and not even know the true idea or essence of where it comes from. That’s why you got to know your history or have an old-head not afraid to tell a young-head that this where it comes from. Yeah you can do your thing but just know where it comes from and do the right way. This whole thing of older heads mixing with younger heads to try to appeal to them and be fly with them, I think, is a discouragement and it is discrediting young people from living their life. I think the responsibility from an older person to a younger person is to say, “Yo, man, you know you can do your thing but just look out…”, boom-boom-boom, you know, and just keep it moving or whatever. No ulterior motive like, “I hope you love me, I hope you dig me, I hope you buy me. I’m thirty-five years old, your twenty-one, yo, support me.” There’s not a reason to support you! Young people wanna support their circle of things, they just want older people to give them guidance because knowledge, wisdom, and understanding don’t come in the microwave. I mean, that’s our role, that’s our objective. When you don’t do that and your like, “I ain’t nobody, I can’t say nothing, I don’t want to be preachy.” When you say that, was your saying is that, “I don’t want to be older, I don’t wanna grow older. I might have well as died when I was young.” I think that that has hurt hip-hop. The other day I got a list of rappers right and the list was like thirty deep. And everybody was like thirty and over. And the latter half, like twenty of them, were like thirty-six and over. How can you be thirty-seven years old and not say something to somebody young that somebody young can grow off of, like we say, “drop jewels”, and you keep it moving?! There’s no excuse not to be men, and women. And not saying there’s one type of man or woman that somebody should be but being a man and being a woman that means that your mind, you know, you gotta drop somebody young down. Yeah, you know, do your thing, you know be at the club or whatever. Wup, wup, wup! If you see somebody trying to act like their… Well, you know, I got the world’s biggest teenager with me! (Laughter) But there can be exceptions! Everybody can’t be like that.
M: So, you’re a little bit older, has your message been received well by the people?
C: Always. Well, number one, ain’t nobody else my child or my children. But, I’m gonna be like that older brother figure. Yeah, cool, do your thing. If your gonna ask me a question, I’m gonna give you the answer. If you’re gonna ask me, “Yo, what’s up old-head. Can you give me your wisdom on this?” Then I’m gonna be like boom-boom-boom, I give you what I can give you. If I don’t know, then I’m gonna try to say, hey, this might be an answer you can use. That’s our responsibility, that’s our accountability. It’s been received all over the world, and I’m thankful for that. If it had to come through the portal of rap music and hip-hop, I’m doubley-thankful for that! I’m very honored and I’m blessed and there’s no excuse not to hold my head up high.
M: So, what do you think about Bonnaroo?
C: Bonnaroo is a wonderful thing. Whenever you can get groups to come together and play, and play in front of the masses… Festivals are an opportunity for people, who would not check you out of your own, to check you out by default. And Public Enemy was one of the first rap groups to play festivals. Festivals were a common thing in different continents because economically it was the thing that would work for maybe countries that just didn’t have this plethora of a financial situation. But, now that the US economy has dipped down and shifted gears, it’s like okay, festivals work and instead of promoters taking like two or three acts across arenas and stadiums is not looked upon as being feasible. Although, the arenas and stadiums are brand new and in many cases need and have a big interest in not to pay, they’ve got to fill them. But, other than major league sports, which is another pressing matter, they’re trying to get it filled. I think Bonnaroo, the Warped Tour which fifteen years ago was able to take parking lots and make that feasible… At the end of the day somebody’s got to say, “Okay, I paid the price. It didn’t kick my ass, but if it did kick my ass, I want the show to kick my ass and make me say that’s the best thing I’ve ever paid for and it was worth while.” You’ve got to give people more for what they spend. You’ve got to give them an experience, and that’s the gift of music. Now, what I try to tell many artists, and hip-hop artists really included, is don’t let your art overtake your responsibility as a performance artist. The whole key is to bust your videos and your songs, bust them in the ass when you’re live. That’s the best way that you share your experience with that audience. And that makes them go back to the music, not the music first makes you come, yeah, in a way. Really records came from the fact that I went to see Duke Ellington, blew me away, what can I take home other than just the ringing in my head? And that’s what that evolved out of. Once that became a business, it flipped back the other way. We can’t lose sight of that. But it’s easy to lose sight of it because people are distant from the history of even the things that they like. Sportscenter, when it comes on ESPN, it behooves that they show it six times so that their followers will not be stupid in the afternoon, so by the afternoon, you’re up to speed, you know. We like to see the same in rap music and hip-hop.
M: So what do you have to say to people that haven’t made the trip to Bonnaroo?
C: It’s a wonderful festival. It’s in the southeast, there’s a lot of people in the southeast that probably can’t make it out west or up north to the other festivals that are in those other different parts. If you don’t catch it, you know, we’re in a highly technological age, there’s no excuse not to hop on YouTube and catch somebody’s filming of it.
B: You’ve been one of the most vocal activists for peer to peer file sharing on the internet. Where would you like to see the music industry be in the future?
C: The music industry is healthy. I’d like to see the record industry become more supportive and the music industry become even more supportive of providing platforms for artists to be able to come at a grassroots performing level and really try to help a great minor leaguing, maybe Single A, level of artist doing their thing and let that cream maybe rise to the next level. One thing you have in sports, not to go back into the sports analogy, somebody always has a chance to try out for JV or varsity. Not to say that they’re gonna make the team, but they have the chance to try out. Well, a person should have the chance to try out as an artist, somewhere. Not to say, this whole thing, “Well, I gotta blow up!” If you can’t do your thing and be supported and blow up local, you know, down the block, then why should you even be bigger?! So, I always asked for radio, urban radio, how come it doesn’t support it’s local? If an Indianapolis radio station calls itself the home of R&B, then how come everything you play is groups that get signed to major labels from L.A. and New York, and even the Atlanta artists! They’ll play the Atlanta artists but only if they’re legitimized by the New York and L.A. companies. You can’t have no legitimacy that way. So, I would like to see the structures be more giving to, my wife says it best, territory bands. Territory bands were a big thing in the early parts of last century, territory bands. You really succeeded by maxing out your territory before moving into other territories. We need to see that in rap music and hip-hop. If not, it’s gonna be this thing of “Oh, we signed this person and nobody knows who this person is. We’re gonna put this put galvanizing, steroid of a marketing plan behind them. I hope everybody gets it and it blows up!” I mean, that’s ass-backwards, and because it worked at one time in our past doesn’t mean it’s the right way.
B: What’s the future hold for Chuck D?
C: Getting on stage, and trying to defy time! (Laughter)
B: Alright, Chuck, thanks for your time.
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How could I possibly describe this interview, but to say that I was truly honored to be able to sit down with Ziggy Marley at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival… It’s not often that one gets to sit down with one of their musical and life inspirations, but fortunately it happened in Manchester, Tennessee. I approached each interview with a different angle, but I think all preconceived angles were thrown out the window once we stepped onto Ziggy’s tour bus.
Earlier on in the day, King B and I were in the pit for Ziggy’s set, and the realization set in that we’d be face to face in less than two hours. I admit that I was a bit nervous before doing the interview, but the nerves went away once Ziggy and I started to connect. In this very exclusive interview, Ziggy and I discuss love, his music, and other topics which combine for an amazing interview. Make sure you’re subscribed so you don’t miss any coverage!
Moe’s Intro - We have got one very special show for you today. As you can probably hear, I still don’t have my voice back yet from Bonnaroo, but you can blame that on two things… Number one: There was so much crazy amounts of dust at Bonnaroo, that you just couldn’t get away from it. And unfortunately, it took my voice away, but hey, that’s a small price you pay for a great weekend. Number two: I was singing my heart out to Ziggy Marley’s set!
If you were there at Ziggy’s set on Saturday at Bonnaroo, you know what I’m talkin’ about. It was one of the most amazing musical experiences of my life! I’ve been waiting over 15 years to see Ziggy Marley in person, and we were taking full advantage of it. So we went all the way up front… We went right into the pit and got as close as we could. I’ll tell ya… It was absolutely AMAZING! Ziggy was onstage playing all of his great tracks, he was playing some of his father’s tracks. You know, it felt almost like a religious experience.
This interview ended up so much better than I could ever expect it to. We sat down man to man and talked about his beliefs, about the power of love… I honestly think that my life changed from that moment on. It was an unbelievable feeling and I am so glad that I was able to get it on audio for you guys and I hope that you guys take as much from it as I did. Because as Ziggy told me… LOVE IS THE TRUTH. And you’ll be able to hear the power and belief behind what he sings in his music.
We were going backstage to Ziggy’s tour bus to do the interview, and King B looked at me… sort of laughed, he said, “Dude, you look nervous!” I didn’t even give him a response because I was so in the zone thinking about what I was I was going to say. But the thing is… Once we got in that tour bus, all of the nerves went out the door. I truly think that Ziggy and I really connected during the interview, and honestly, I couldn’t be happier with how this interview came out.
Guys, have a listen, feel the power of love, make sure you go out and get “Love Is My Religion,” ’cause it is definitely one of Ziggy’s best works yet.
Here it is! The interview with Ziggy Marley! One love…
Moe - We’re sitting backstage in Ziggy Marley’s tour bus. Ziggy, thank you very much for being on the podcast.
Ziggy - Good brah.
Moe - So how are you feeling about Bonnaroo? Are you feeling the love?
Ziggy - Ya mon. Bonnaroo, you know, is good.. is good feh see so much people together and just enjoying music and love. You know.. It’s great. It’s a great environment.
Moe - Absolutely. I’ve been speaking to many people about who they’re most looking forward to seeing at Bonnaroo.. And I’ll tell ya, about every single person that I had spoken to was very, very excited about your set…
Ziggy - Yeah?
Moe - And they were all out there.
Ziggy - Yeah mon.
Moe - “Love Is My Religion”.. I keep hearing you say, “love is all we need.” How does that shape your life?
Ziggy - Well that, I mean, what it is, is a gradual realization of the true concept of spirituality or the true concept of God. You know, because from when I was a young child coming up, we were about God, you know, we went through Christianity. We were still lookin’ for the truth. How do I identify myself in terms of that aspect, in terms of this religious aspect, spiritual aspect… What is it really? What do I call it? Am I a Christian? Am I a Rasta? What am I? And what is the direction that I should be goin’? So after a while, it just gradually come to me that love is really… Love is the answer. Love is the answer to everything that I was questioning.
Moe - You were looking for the truth, and love is the truth.
Ziggy - Yeah. So the truth for me doesn’t lie within the rituals of religion or the traditions of religion. Love is the truth, ya know? So, that is what I came to realize a few years ago, and just to put it in a terms that people can understand is “Love Is My Religion,” ya know?
Moe - It feels to me that you’ve written an anthem for a generation with “Love Is My Religion.” It feels that in this day and age, there’s not enough love, and what you’re telling everyone is… everyone does need love. Do you feel that your message is being received well?
Ziggy - Yes, I think so. Everywhere I go, it’s been received well and I believe that.. the good thing about love is that love don’t have any enemies. So even if, I mean, even if people are there who are Christians, Muslims, or whatever… You still can say that, ’cause it’s love. You know… You really can’t fight love. Like, you can’t have anything against love.
Moe - It’s true.
Ziggy - You know what I mean? I think it’s been received well and it’s hard work still to get the message out there ’cause I have to be on the road. My music and what I do is not something where I can sit down and depend on upon a TV or the radio or the media generally, to promote what I’m doing. What I’m doing, I have to get out there and do the footwork… The soldierwork. And that’s what we’re doin’ right now. That’s the only way I can get that message out properly, ya know?
Moe - Some musicians deal more with political aspects. I feel as though you deal more with the person… The social aspects. The human condition, I would say.
Ziggy - Yeah, well I’ve done political stuff, ya know. There was a point where I kinda understood… ‘All right, well, ya know what? The solution is not in politics or even social things. The solution is within the individual…’ To find love, that is the solution to the world’s problems. It is not democracy, it is not communism, nor capitalism… It is not religion, it is not charity, it is for human beings to find love within themselves. This is the solution for everything. Everything else is secondary. If you have democracy without love, it ain’t gonna work. If you have communism wit… Nuttin’ gonna work without love! Nuttin! So let’s find love first, and then we’ll find everything else!
Moe - Speaking of love… We were in the pit area during your performance. I was just taking a look around and you could see a huge smile on everyone’s face.
Ziggy - (Smiles and laughs)
Moe - A huge smile! It was great. It was almost as if you were putting your hands in the air over your head to channel the power of everyone in the crowd.
Ziggy - Yeah.
Moe - Is that how you feel?
Ziggy - Yeah, well that I mean.
Moe - Are you just feeling the music?
Ziggy - Yeah, yeah weh… You know, we’re transmittin’ vibrations, ya know. We’re communicatin’ with more that words and more than music. We’re communicatin’ with vibrations. So that is a form… that is a way of communication from me. So, ya know, puttin’ up my hands is very symbolic of just trying to soak up and tryin’ to give back healing power, ya know?
Moe - The people in the crowd were definitely soaking up your power as well.
Ziggy - Ya mon.
Moe - When you went solo…when you recorded “Dragonfly.” How was it getting away from playing with your family for so long with The Melody Makers? How was that transition?
Ziggy - Well ya know, I mean, feh me it wasn’t.. it was not a difficult thing. I do what I have to do. I do wherever life is taking me… I go without any resistance. So I’m just going with the flow. So the flow took me there and I didn’t fight it. I didn’t think about it, I didn’t judge it, I didn’t do anything, I just went with it.
Moe - So it felt natural.
Ziggy - Yeah. So I just flow with it. But I think one of the main things why that flow is like that, is because we are a family anyway.
Ziggy - Sorry.
Moe - I’m surprised you get reception!
King B - His gets reception.
Ziggy - Sorry.
Moe - That’s fine… If you need to take it, go for it. No problem.
Ziggy - Yeah, so for me, it wasn’t like a breaking up of anything. You know because we are family.
Moe - Family’s family.
Ziggy - Yeah, that exists up to now, so we still have that togetherness, ya know?
Moe - In “Dragonfly,” you sort of changed your style a little bit. I felt.. It seems like you went a little jazzy, acoustic rock style, or bluesy?
Ziggy - Yeah well… Whatever it was, it was. I didn’t.. I never put any names, I didn’t try to do anything. I didn’t try to go jazzy bluesy, I just played what was coming out at the time. That’s what we do as artists. We just give what we have at the time. I don’t try to shape my music in any particular way. I try to just make it be natural. And so I think that “Dragonfly” was a very musically adventurous record, which is the way I am. I’m very adventurous. And so, you know, as I said, we’ll go with the flow and that’s what was happening with me at the time. For me, as an artist/musician, we try to lead the people. That means… What I do is not try to do what people want, because I’m an artist.
Moe - Exactly.
Ziggy - I have to do what my heart tells me. I have to lead them to me. I can’t follow them to where they are, I have to bring them to where I am.
Moe - You wanna be true to yourself like you say in your song!
Ziggy - Yeah! That is where we are. We have to bring the people to where WE are… and that’s just how it is, ya know?
Moe - Staying true to yourself, like in your music… Is it hard when people are judging what you’re doing?
Ziggy - It’s not hard for me. I wish people would get the message of the music. Ya know, mainly it’s critics who have opinions, it’s not people. Ya know, people enjoy whatever! ‘Hey! I enjoy..’
Moe - Yeah! Exactly!
Ziggy - It’s those who think they have that authority of criticism. But it doesn’t bother me, because feh me… I kinda am strong and believe and believe in what I am doing. I’m not here halfway. I’m here full way.
Moe - That’s good.
Ziggy - I believe in what I’m doing. I know what I’m doing have a purpose. So, there’s no detractors or negative energy that could make me even double think what I’m doing or think twice about what I’m doing ’cause I know what I’m doing, ya know?
Moe - Speaking of critics, I saw on your website that you said about family members… About how people tend to say that ‘Oh, Ziggy’s better than the other brothers.’ How does the family deal with that?
Ziggy - We don’t deal with it. There’s nothing to deal with.
Moe - You just flow?
Ziggy - Yeah. There’s nothing to deal with. That doesn’t effect us in any way shape or form. My bruddahs know me, my sistahs know me, we know each other… That’s it!
Moe - How would you describe your brothers?
Ziggy - Steve, who is the next eldest to me in terms of the male in the family… We call him “Raggamuffin,”
Moe - (Laughs)
Ziggy - Ya know, ’cause he has a rougher side… a little more bit more rougher… Yeh.. Damian, he’s the youngest one of us now. Steve mentored him into comin’ up into what’s been happenin’ now. And so he’s a young one. Still growin’, you know, still growin’, still young, still growin’, still finding who he is and stuff like that, so we still have to give him some time feh become who he is, ya know? We have Julian, Ky-Mani… Everybody is humble, everyone is working what they feel… and everyone is supportive of everyone else, you know I mean?
Moe - Well, you have an actor in your family, right?
Ziggy - Hmm?
Moe - Ky-Mani is an actor, correct?
Ziggy - Ky-Mani, yeah, did some acting in…
Moe - Shottas…
Ziggy - Shottas…Right. Yeah, he’s into acting and he’s making a new record right now coming out. So we’re looking forward to that.
Moe - Well since he’s an actor… I heard that you write screenplays.
Ziggy - (Smiles) I’m trying to! I’m trying to divert energy, ya know? I’m trying to put energy into other places where I feel creative energy.
Moe - So what are you writing about? What are your subjects?
Ziggy - (Laughs)
Moe - (Laughs) I’m sorry to embarrass you! Oh, come on!
Ziggy - You’ll see! Everyone will see!
Moe - (Laughs)
Ziggy - No matter what we’re doing… in terms of that screenplay thing, I’m tryin’ to be entertaining but I’m tryin’ to always have a message in what we do.
Moe - So there’s nothing in particular that you’re…
Ziggy - (Smiles) I don’t wanna say right now, ya know? Yuh haffa wait… Yuh haffa wait!
Moe - (Laughs) That’s fair enough! Do you have any other hobbies or diversions that most people don’t know about… That you’d talk about at least.
Ziggy - I like watchin’ movies, I play video games… Sports…
Moe - Guitar Hero?
Ziggy - (Smiles) I wanna get that one!
Moe - (Laughs)
Ziggy - I haven’t gotten that one yet, but I saw somebody playin it. I haffa get that one!
Moe - It’s fun! They have a huge screen over here (at Bonnaroo). It’s about 50 feet square.
Ziggy - Oh yeah?? I haffa get it! It looked fun! But I heard they’re coming out with a whole band!?
Moe - They are!
Ziggy - Yeah? It’s gonna be interesting! (Laughs)
Moe - You see people playing it all the time!
Ziggy - (Laughs)
Moe - Just to have that diversion, does it help you deal with everyday touring? ‘Cause you’re on the road all the time, right?
Ziggy - Yeah, for a couple years we been touring, spreading “Love Is My Religion.” But yeah… I like taking my head somewhere else after a while.
Moe - You’re going home after today?
Ziggy - Yeah, we head home for a couple days, then we head out to Europe.
Moe - I bet you’re just gonna go home and just do nothing, aren’t ya? (Laughs.)
Ziggy - (Laughs) That’s exactly it. That’s my favorite thing to do!
Moe - Yeah, I bet! I’m sure you have friends that you go home and they want you to go out… What do you say, “No.. Leave me alone!” or what? (Laughs)
Ziggy - No..no.. Really, I don’t… I don’t have a lot of friends, ya know? I’m a family man. I have my kids and wife and ya know, my bruddahs, but I’m not…
Moe - How many kids do you have?
Ziggy - Me have five.
Moe - Five…
Ziggy - I’m not someone that goes out a lot. I’m not into that. I’m into just relaxing.
Moe - A family person… Right.
Ziggy - Yeah… I’m into that.
Moe - Well you’re on the road all the time, I can definitely see that. You had an exclusive deal with Walmart for a year, right?
Ziggy - It was Target.
Moe - Oh, I’m sorry… Target! And it wasn’t the best experience? How’d it go?
Ziggy - No, it was all right. I mean, again, I told you that I love adventure. I’m an adventurer in what we do. So how this came about was… Well, we wanted to do an independent record now. I wanted to own my music, ya know? So, I didn’t want to go into any contract with any record label. Target came up and they said they would put it out in Target exclusive for a year. Ya know, it was a good business decision. And it was an experiment..
Moe - You were the first in the industry to do that weren’t you?
Ziggy - Yeah, yeah… I think… Something like that!
Moe - That’s a benchmark!
Ziggy - Yeah! It was a revolutionary concept, which I think there is going to be more in the future because of how the record business is going now. Record companies are going a bit down, and artists are begining to be more independent. But anyway, I mean, it was allright. I wish that they had put more into it, in terms of promoting it.
Moe - They didn’t do too much about it?
Ziggy - (Smiles) No, it is a big corporation, so I know how it… I’m not big. I’m just like a little small, you know (Laughs) in the corporation..
Moe - Oh come on! (Laughs)
Ziggy - I wish they had done more to promote it. But because it was only for a year, I was OK with it, ’cause I know after that, I could get it out on a more mass market thing. So, we’re looking forward for it being available to everyone in all of the main stores, but you can get it online anywhere anyway, so that’s cool.
Moe - I contacted someone from TuffGong and they said that I could use “Love Is My Religion” on my podcast.
Ziggy - Yeah.
Moe - And I also saw that you put, ah… What’s that song was it… On the podcast network? You just put another…
Ziggy - Which one? I’m not sure which one it was…
Moe - Ahh…
Ziggy - (Sings) Make some music… Into the groove…
Moe - It might be that one… I can’t remember!
Ziggy - I don’t know. I can’t remember.
Moe - But anyway! I’m sorry… With that, you’re opening yourself up and giving yourself out to the people.
Ziggy - Yeah.
Moe - How do you feel the reception from that? Do you think that more people will start embracing that? More musicians will start doing that?
Ziggy - You mean like…
Moe - Promotion-wise… ‘Cause it’s good for promotion for you!
Ziggy - Yeah, I mean. You know, gradually as we get more into the future of the music industry, I think that… artists will be more open to the new technology to get the music across. For me, you know.. for me, it’s about getting the message across, so that is the greatest thing for me if I can get what I’m saying across to people. That is what I’m interested in doing, and because of that, I’m very open to ideas, because I know that what I’m sayin’ needs to be given to the people… So I’m very open to whichever avenue I can get that to the people, ya know? So, I’m really open to anything that’s happening that will get the message.
Moe - I read that you said that you think that music will be free in the future?
Ziggy - Yeah, I wanted something like that to happen… Yeah! Why not? I don’t see why not… (Smiles) I’ve been trying to do that for a few years, but the business people, ‘No! No! You don’t…’
Moe - Yeah, yeah! I know! Well hey… maybe some day!
Ziggy - Yeah… The music free or the concert free… Somethin’… Somethin’… Somethin’ haffe… somethin’ haffe give! (Laughs)
Moe - (Laughs) Something have to give!
King B - (Laughs)
Ziggy - Yeah! (Laughs)
Moe - One last question… If you have one message to give, I think your message would be love…
Ziggy - That’s it.
Moe - But what’s your message?
Ziggy - It’s love! It’s love!
Moe - Yeah, definitely.
Ziggy - It’s very simple…
Moe - Well thank you very much for the interview.
Ziggy - Ya mon, thanks…
Moe - It’s been an honor. And thank you for you and your family…
Ziggy - Ya mon!
Moe - So are YOU gonna fly home? I know your hobby is flying…
Ziggy - Yeah!! (Laughs)
Moe - Take a hold of the controls, huh?! (Laughs)
Ziggy - (Laughs) I wish! I wish! I wish! (Laughs)
Moe - Hey Ziggy… Thank you very, very much, I appreciate it.
Ziggy - All right… Ya mon! Respect! Thanks…
Welcome to Moe Train Eats, a food, wine, beer, art, and lifestyle show hosted by Monty "Moe Train" Wiradilaga. Moe Train is a podcast personality, and competitive eater who resides in the Philadelphia area.
The first three-epidode series of Moe Train Eats takes place in beautiful Southern Chester County Pennsylvania's Kennett Square. Follow Monty as he takes you to many of the best restaurants, wineries, breweries, shops, concerts and local businesses in Kennett Square.
Galer Estate Vineyard and Winery leads off the Moe Train Eats: Kennett Square series as Moe Train tours the beautiful property and samples copious amounts of wine. Galer Estate is an award winning winery with carefully crafted wines produced from locally grown grapes and a strong art presence.
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